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My infrastructure argument was first raised in October 2005.
"Let's acknowledge what the Web has been successful at: as a presentation layer. But the Web 2.0 kids desperately want to write system apps on their "global operating system" - only they don't have the cojones to do system level thinking. Real engineers look at where systems (and humans) fail - their priority isn't a cool demo. They're pessimistic. And there's no place for pessimism at a Web 2.0 conference."Tim O'Reilly snootily replied that he was unable to respond to "innuendo"-
"... this is yellow journalismi: find the outliers, and attack them to make a point."
For O'Reilly, infrastructure is an "outlier".